Natalie Jean needs very little introduction, she's a class act with a body of work that would make most salivate. She's done two stellar horror films both directed by the talented Adam Ahlbrandt. Both Cinema Head Cheese favorites, The Cemetery & Cross Bearer two of the best blood soaked Independent horror films that really charmed my black heart.
Natalie was kind enough to take time out of her busy schedule to answer some of my questions about her career. Luckily the interview didn't end with me
begging for her phone # or her filing a restraining order
against me so I think it turned out well! A big thank
you to Natalie for such a fun interview and as always
being a total sweetheart (and not filing a sexual harassment suit against me!)
Rob- First off, thanks so much Natalie
for doing this little interview for Cinema Head Cheese! I wanted to
mix things up a bit so the questions will be a mix of normal Q&A
stuff and oddball questions. Feel free to curse and say whatever you
want, we don't believe in censorship at The Cheese. First question
isn't film biz related, you have an awesome assortment of tats. How
many do you have and do you have a personal favorite?
Natalie- Hum, I’d
like to say 13? I haven’t gotten worked on for quite a while, for a
couple reasons. I want to wait until I can get to the artists I am
really after, and also I’m not in any rush to get fully covered. I
probably never will. But I will definitely be getting some pretty
serious pieces, over time. My favorite is probably the Mark Ryden
painting on my left leg. It’s from the hardback version of the
Stephen King novel Desperation. I will actually be getting a whole
King piece when the time is right. Nerdcore!
Rob- Now again with the tats, do you
feel when you go to audition for a film say just doing a cold read do
you feel having tattoos effect the casting directors choice? It seems
even in this day and age for some reason tats are almost taboo. Do
you ever feel you got gipped out of a role do to them?
Natalie- To be honest I
rarely go to cold-read auditions. I’m sort of a square peg in an
industry of round holes (readers feel free to write your own anal
joke here) so anything I’ve gotten thus far has been from hustling
my own ass through networking and whatnot. Even when I’ve worked
with agents or modeling agencies, try as they might, they never
really knew what to do with me. I don’t fit into any niche market,
which is to say really great, or real, real, bad. Whichever way that
swings is up to me. Also I intrinsically hate the concept of cattle
calls, as a caster or auditioner. I think they blow for a number of
reasons.
As far as
tattoos, as someone who casts I kind of understand the reason tattoos
can cause problems. It’s nice to have ‘blanker slates’ for
certain roles.. If I’m stunt-doubling an actress and someone on
production gives me shit for my tattoos, or I can’t be considered
for a role as a character from 1967, well I get it. In any case, one
reason I started getting worked on by tattoo artists was as a part of
my pseudo-nihilistic defiance against following pointless rules. Now
it’s actually become SO normal for every other19-year-old kid to be
covered nose to nuts in scribbles, that rebellious feel has kind of
been stifled. But shit, that’s the way trends and time work: what
once was old will be new again. So I love the practice of it, but I
don’t want it to be everything about me.
Rob- Now your two most recent films Cross
Bearer & Cemetery have been kicking ass and taking names all over
the place. The films are pretty much the Chuck Norris of film
festivals, wherever they go they rock the casaba. Did you ever expect
while working on either film that you were working on something
really special that fans would respond to?
Natalie- Well thank
you! Right away (along with everybody
involved I think) I knew that I felt great as we were shooting The
Cemetery. There is actually a moment in the Special Features
vignette, on the yet-to-be released DVD, between Sakmann (my
co-producer and SPFX master) and Brown (actor playing Bill) where
they have one of those ‘wow, we’re really doing something’
conversations.
During Cross
Bearer I felt confident in our actions, but the tough plotline mixed
with intense physical demands made it impossible to stop and take a
breath, let alone worry about what people would think. Afterwards
though, I certainly had hope we had caught something. And if not, I
probably would have booked a one-way ticket to the looney bin, since
putting so much in to something begs for some kind of return. I’m
kidding about the looney bin (mostly), but thankfully I fell in love
with the end result.
Rob- The tone for both CB &
Cemetery couldn't be more different. Especially your roles, your
character in CB is a troubled individual in a dark place. While as in
Cemetery you get to play a free loving and soon demon possessed
medium. When Adam was writing The Cemetery, were Adam & you
purposely trying to do something totally different (lighter in tone)
then CB?
Natalie- Actually..
it’s a little known fact that The Cemetery came first,
production-wise! Also of note, I was a last-minute replacement for
the lead actress of The Cem. And when I say ‘last minute’ I mean
they flew me from LA to the principal photography location four days
after they first contacted me. I had had previous working experience
with Adam and Doug on some music videos and they thought of me when
they were scrambling for replacements. As such, The Cem changed
somewhat during shooting, since Adam is good at letting things take
an organic shape around the actors he has.
Regarding Cross
Bearer, that movie was supposed to have been a much lighter movie as
well. It was originally called ‘Strip Club Slaughter’, and it was
Adam’s homage to Slumber Party Massacre. That didn’t last very
long. As casting and pre-production moved along, both Adam and I were
in financial straights and dealing with some ugliness in other facets
of life. Add in an absolute frigid winter, throw in a blizzard, then
mix in a primary location with ZERO heating capabilities and viola-
you have Cross Bearer!
Rob- Besides CB & Cemetery you have a
hugely impressive resume. A good portion of it is stunt work on very
big flicks such as The Other Guys, Black Swan, Men In Black III and
even the upcoming Noah. How did you first become involved in stunt
work?
Natalie- As with many
people in the stunt field, it sort of found me. I was doing
background work at the demand of my modeling agency at the time, and
was approached by a stunt coordinator while I was playing a modern
dancer on a TV show. That guy, Doug Crosby, is my ‘stunt dad’
-many of us have some kind of patriarch in the field- and he
proceeded to teach me not only about stunt work but about how to be a
better filmmaker and a stronger person in general. He has been so
instrumental in my career and life, there are no words to describe my
gratitude to him. Also to the other couple guys who have taken me
under their wing, like Bam. The stunt profession is a constant
learning curve; I’m the first to say I consider myself on the lower
rungs of the ladder. With anything I’ve accomplished, there are ten
things bumping up against it I HAVEN’T done yet.
Rob- Now besides acting and stunt work
your into some other awesome stuff. At this point your a scream Queen
and a Jill of all trades if you will. The fact that you act in
Independent films, do stunts in big budget productions and not only
that but you are also a professional dancer & contortionist. Do
you feel dancing kind of opened you up to the idea of stunt work (I
imagine it doesn't hurt being limber in that profession).
Natalie- Well thanks
again! I’d be honored to be considered a Scream Queen, would love
to make more horror. But I don’t want to jump the gun; it’s tough
to gauge the moment when you’re allowed that title. I just came
back from Days of the Dead Chicago, and was fortunate enough to sit
down and speak with the greats of that field over the course of the
weekend. If I can earn the respect of those fellows and (sadly few)
ladies I’d feel cool with taking that title. Though I humbly
appreciate you calling me so!
Most of us in the
stunt field came from a physical background- pro-dancers, gymnasts,
martial artists, etc. Aside from the physical capabilities those
skillsets usually lend themselves to conditioned performance and
pressure capabilities, which are crucial. You have to have super
tough skin and be bred for constant challenge. For example, if you’re
shooting a massive action sequence and you trip and fall and a
top-level celebrity actor halts the entire cast and crew and makes
you point yourself out in order to humiliate you, and you have to
continue on, now injured and unable to make the slightest error lest
you anger him and he shuts down the entire show, you have to be able
to push past it and keep a clear head. That example is just
theoretic, of course.
Rob- Now when your not dancing the
nights away, being chased down by hammer wielding maniacs, being
possessed by demons and traveling around promoting your films, how do
you like to kick back and relax?
Natalie- Welllll,
I have a terrible time relaxing, to be honest..
I may be addicted to work. My personal life is kind of sad. Case in
point: after being a veritable gypsy for well over a year I finally
took a room over at my friend’s house in Philly, and I’ve been
there for six or so months. My office side of the room is completely
set up, my posters and photos framed, bulletin and white boards up,
desk organized. I still do not have a bed- true story. But aside from
that I do love music and going to shows, exploring old buildings in
the hopes of finally finding the treasure map that will lead me to
Chester Copperpot and a giant pipe organ made out of skeletons, and
making friends with awesome designers who will let me wear their
clothes for free. Oh, and I have a consuming greed for buying and
owning shoes.
Rob- Gotta ask, what are some of your
favorite films? Or films that you enjoy watching whenever you have
the chance?
Natalie- The list is so
erratic I don’t honestly ever know how to answer well..I love
horror of course; more-so classics with style, like Texas Chainsaw,
Exorcist, Evil Dead 2, Poltergeist, Dead Alive, The Shining, Return
of the Living Dead, but I try really hard to stay on top of the
daunting amount there is to watch; some of the new ones I like quite
a bit are Hobo With A Shotgun, Insidious (yes I do like mainstream
horror sometimes), most of Ty West’s work; then there’s comedy,
my favorites being Ghost Busters, Coming to America, The Jerk,
Wayne’s World, Anchorman, The Goonies; then there’s a crapload
you could categorize as ‘cult’- exploitation like Switchblade
Sisters and Reform School Girls, punk movies like Suburbia and Rock n
Roll High School, 90s neo noir like Natural Born Killers, Doom
Generation, Four Rooms, the Tarantinos like Pulp Fiction and Killing
Zoe, also Kill Bill and Deathproof; arthouse horror like Possession
and Susperia, directors Kubrick, Werner Herzog, Darren Aronofsky,
David Lynch, Penelope Spheeris, Jack Hill..and I’ve been devouring
documentaries recently. Netflix can be a beautiful thing. I think
I’ve watched American Grindhouse and Room 237 20 times each. I am
going to stop this answer now and not look back, because I will just
continue to edit this until we’re all dead and the next generation
might not know all these movies.
Rob-Next up you have Punk Rock Holocaust
3 coming out soon, what can you tell us about the production and
working with Doug Sakmann?
Natalie- Hah! Doug…what
can I say? If you are familiar with Doug, that question will probably
make you smile. Beyond PRH I’ve worked on at least a dozen other
projects with him over the last four years, probably more. Not to
mention I’ve had to live on his couch more than once during
post-production of Cross Bearer and The Cemetery, since I had to sell
most of my belongings to get the movies finished. The man lives on
meat and candy, can throw a raucous ten-hour party, is an absolute
master of practical effects (he was the head of SPFX on The Cemetery
and the ENTIRE department on Cross Bearer), and can drink a sailor
under the table and then get up and produce a 14-hour video shoot
like a pro. He’s the guy who diligently sat watch over me for hours
at a horror convention party as I slept exhaustion sleep under a
lobby table because we couldn’t afford a hotel room, and he’s the
same guy who coerced me into simulating blood-soaked anal rape on a
guy with a baseball bat for PRH in the middle of a crowd at Warped
Tour. He’s one in a million and one of my favorite people on earth.
Rob- Last question, what kind of muzak do
you have loaded up onto your I-pad? Any particular genres or bands
you like to jam to?
Natalie- I grew up on
punk rock and ballet music, and then I branched out into what can
only be described as a music stalker..you know, going beyond love
into a mentally unstable obsession which if I could, I would keep
music’s discarded trash and hair clippings in a shrine in my
closet? Music means everything to me, and often in the traverses of
my self-inflicted struggles to make movies, musicians were my only
companions. As such what I keep in my libraries varies from
deathmetal to soul to grindcore to EDM to chamber music. I don’t
care what anybody thinks about what I like, because artists like
Eminem, Tom Gabel, Alx Rose, Debussey, Matt Bellamy, Mike Patton,
Freddie Mercury, Wendy O. Williams, Joey Ramone, Beethoven, and so
many more were my support system and I don’t know what I would have
done without them. SO I’ll wrap this up by saying to anyone
choosing to go after a big (and sometimes alienating) goal and might
be feeling alone, find power in music, film, or on paper- it’s
there to serve you, baby!
Thanks Rob and
Cinema Head Cheese!
For more info on all things Natalie check these sites out--
http://www.thenattiejean.com
http://www.sleazepalace.com
For more info on all things Natalie check these sites out--
http://www.thenattiejean.com
http://www.sleazepalace.com
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